Had to happen....

Janie · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: Had to happen....

stand back and watch the fireworks.......

look here

keepingthefaith · Guest

It says

EflatPat · Guest

Even with her Liberal faults, she is a far better prospect than the present murderous regime.

Janie · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject:

lol all I can say is *God Help America* he may have been a very clever Rhodes Scholar but poor old Bill was a very weak man when it came to..*never had........
Can't imagine Hil will be any better , actually she gives me the willies.
Janie

Janie · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject:

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Janie · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject:

EflatPat · Guest

The other worry is of course remembring the experience of a woman in charge in the UK

Janie · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject:

oh I had a soft spot for Maggie..tell you what I would rather a dozen Mags than 1 Teflon Tone Icon_wink

keepingthefaith · Guest

yep I liked maggie but I remember the years under labour with bin men striking and electricity cuts...yep maggie sorted that all out pity about the poll tax though Icon_icon7

Janie · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject:

EflatPat · Guest

Clearly you forget the two rescssions interest in double figures ect ect ect
Oh and let us not forget the destruction of the coal industry just to prove a political point.

Sisyphus · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject:

Actually Ef, the destruction of the British coal industry was assured by global market forces. The coal union didn't like the writing on the wall and started to flex it's muscles in such a way which was damaging to the UK. That's when She stepped in and destroyed the union not the industry, that was doomed without her intervention.
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Elaine · Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 1712 Location: Derbyshire

Living right in the middle of a mining area (at that time, it's not anymore Icon_sad

) I saw and heard several sides to this.

At one local pit, the miners were quite militant and willing to strike, at another they were more moderate.

MT used these miners against each other.

The moderate miners were promised their jobs would be safe if they worked. The conditions were such (down the mine) that if it had been left unworked for even a shortish length of time, the mine would've been unworkable anyway, so the miners kept working, suffering everytime they went for a shift, at the hands of strikers, both local and those bussed in by Scargill.

This mine still closed along with all the rest Icon_1435

with the loss of jobs and millions of ££££ of machinery that couldn't be taken out. It also meant loss of face for the party that promised these men would keep their jobs.

The area I live in still bares the scars and wounds.
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EflatPat · Guest

As i say Elaine the Tory party destroyed an industry for a political point.
The Tories of the Eighties cared only about money and the domination of the workers by private industry. The people at the top never suffered personal discomfort because of two rescessions. Many of the ills of society here can be laid at the blame of the selfish look after number 1 mantra of thatchers government