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maria
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Bobby
There are some interested,and I was invited to join another forum.
You would be suprised who stumble across these sites.Also how info is passed on.
I have a friend who gave info out on one site,and to his suprise the info was then elsewhere,resulting in his getting e-mails for help.
I have also been contacted from forums . |
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maria
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| One lady recently left the JWS. |
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Eddie c
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| bobbyc wrote: | | I asked it because I know (from several of her posts) that maria used to be a JW and she has also said that one of her aims is to try and help other former JWs. I think Eddie might also have been a JW but I'm not totally sure. I consider it to be highly unlikely that former Witnesses (or wobbling ones) would stumble across this particular forum when ones such as Reach Out Trust which (as far as I understand it) are more openly into offering Christian guidance to those who are recovering from their involvement in cults. Consequently I wasn't sure for whose benefit maria had posted the links. Any problem I have with you maria is entirely in your own imagination. I may comment on your posts from time to time but that's because you've said something worthy of a response. |
Bobby,
i see no problem with your question. Yes i was a witness for over ten years. I have shared some of my experiences here and on ROT.
Eddie
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bobbyc
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks Eddie, I thought I remembered a few comments from you but maria must just have posted about JW experiences a bit more so I remebered hers more readily. |
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maria
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.freeminds.org/women/barbara.htm
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I know some very sad stories of people who virtually stopped living, for the WT.No children,No education,No marriage,no going to 'worldly places' no doing 'worldy things'.Taking things to the extreme.
Every world crisis,every thunderstorm.............Armageddon.Then we would be out on the doors in full force,only to find that we were wrong yet again.
I am not a scoffer,or unbeliever,but I dont ever want to live that way again.I have joy in the Lord.Whatever he has in store for me is fine with me and I am grateful.To live always on a knifedge is not living.
Watch and pray .
Taking notice of signs of the times but not going back to how I was as a JW living in fear 24/7. |
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bobbyc
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Equally as sad is that this section - | Quote: | | I was instructed to believe that the United Nations was "the beast with seven heads and ten horns, the abomination of abominations" spoken of in Revelation. I believed that Revelation's "Babylon the great, the mother of harlots," was the Roman Catholic Church. |
could be taken verbatim from any number of Christian websites or teaching and is still being willingly swallowed by many members of Protestant Evangelical churches just because they share the same interpretation of Revelation. I'm afraid you will still find that sort of teaching even though you are no longer a JW maria. |
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jtheb
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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It must be wonderful to be the fount of all knowledge.
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bobbyc
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| jtheb wrote: | | It must be wonderful to be the fount of all knowledge. |
I wouldn't know John because I'm not perfect. However, does it not occur to you that if JWs have misunderstood Revelation then Christian groups who peddle the same interpretation might also be mistaken? In any case, are you disputing the facts* behind my post or just taking a thinly veiled swipe at me?
*If you can prove to me that there is no Christian school of thought that equates the Catholic Church with Babylon the harlot and the UN (or EU) as the beast with seven heads and ten horns then I will retract my assertion that what maria was taught as a JW is also taught in certain sections of Christianity. |
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jtheb
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Oo! someone is prickly.
I have not said any of the things that you imply are in my posting.
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maria
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Bobby
Yes I know these things are taught elsewhere,and I also know how this affects an exiting JW who cannot cope with it.(been there)
This week I heard of a JW lady and her daughter who I and others tried to help some years ago.Poor woman had a terrible time of it,and had tried out several churches who gave her different books to read,she ended up with David Icke's books and one about the Illiminati etc: that finished her,by then she had had enough.She dismissed me when I got baptised.............
I think she has been trying to contact me again................... |
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bobbyc
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| jtheb wrote: | Oo! someone is prickly.
I have not said any of the things that you imply are in my posting. |
Then perhaps you might more clearly explain your previous posting about being the fount of all knowledge. If it wasn't directed at me why post it straight after one of my posts? |
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jtheb
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One has to post somewhere.
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Janie
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shows just how dense I can be at times..I read in another post somewhere, Maria referring to Bobby as her *Bruv* I took this literally, thinking at the time *oh how sweet, two siblings on the same forum*..lol I should have guessed..you obviously meant *brother* as in *Christian Brother* ?
Bobby for the record I too saw nothing wrong in your question about the JW's. 
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Eddie c
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| bobbyc wrote: | Equally as sad is that this section - | Quote: | | I was instructed to believe that the United Nations was "the beast with seven heads and ten horns, the abomination of abominations" spoken of in Revelation. I believed that Revelation's "Babylon the great, the mother of harlots," was the Roman Catholic Church. |
could be taken verbatim from any number of Christian websites or teaching and is still being willingly swallowed by many members of Protestant Evangelical churches just because they share the same interpretation of Revelation. I'm afraid you will still find that sort of teaching even though you are no longer a JW maria. |
Bobby is correct. In the over twenty years since i left the Watchtower i have come across practially every interpretation possible. In fact there are more false Prophets amongst the `Christian` scene than i ever imagined. I should say that having a `wrong view does not make one a false prophet,but there are many who even give dates as to the return of Jesus.
As a witness i felt (wrongly) that the bible was black and white. We prided ourselves that all witnesses worldwide believed the same thing. We saw this a `unity,but in fact it was `uniformity`. I naively thought on becomming a christian that christians would agree on most things. I soon discovered that apart from a few essentials,`christians` seem to disagree on just about everything. Hence the reason we have hundreds of Denominations.
For someone leaving a controlling group like the Watchtower the world does seem a frightening place. They cant understand that christians can be united yet disagree.
At one time this concerned me until i felt secure in my own faith. To me the important thing is to know my saviour Jesus. To know i am a forgiven sinner. I do have my views on doctrine,in fact if i expressed them i would make Bobby seem like a pussycat, sorry Bobby.
Eddie
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Covenanter
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Eddie c wrote: | I do have my views on doctrine,in fact if i expressed them i would make Bobby seem like a pussycat, sorry Bobby.
Eddie |
What is wrong with pussy cats???
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