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jtheb
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Re. Henry VIII I belive that none were ever offered after his death.
If anyone knows better please tell us.
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| -theophilus- wrote: | | So to then spread what is considered a dangerous teaching amongst the rest of the church would obviously spur the clergy into action. I don't know what they would do specifically, as I'm not a priest myself. It would depend on the individual, and what would be the best way to stop him spreading the false teaching. Gently pointing out the error of his way could be enough; the strongest action a priest could take is to bar someone from taking communion until they repented (excommunication). |
So the bottom line is that the church hierarchy would probably take some kind of action to minimise the potential for 'trouble'?
| -theophilus- wrote: | | If they are an Orthodox Christian then there is nothing worse. If the individual doesn't care about taking communion then his heart is elsewhere already, and I find it hard to believe he'd keep attending church. |
Again, theological differences apply, but in the UK there are many, many reasons for attending church that don't involve communion. For example (and I'm not saying that any of these are commendable, only that they exist for some people), meeting friends, getting your kids into the good school, because it's 'what you do', or because you like the music. Sadly, God is often a long way down the list.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| davelarge wrote: | | So the bottom line is that the church hierarchy would probably take some kind of action to minimise the potential for 'trouble'? |
Yes. As I explained though, the trouble would involve the leading the souls of others away from salvation.
| davelarge wrote: | | Again, theological differences apply, but in the UK there are many, many reasons for attending church that don't involve communion. For example (and I'm not saying that any of these are commendable, only that they exist for some people), meeting friends, getting your kids into the good school, because it's 'what you do', or because you like the music. Sadly, God is often a long way down the list. |
I would think that if any of the reasons above were the main one for someone to attend church, they probably wouldn't be so forthright in pushing theological views in the first place. If the leadership encouraged people attending church for any of the above reasons (e.g. meeting friends/for fellowship), then it would be an example of one of the churches I don't go to. That isn't what church is for in my view, and I believe it is also the historical view.
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davelarge
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| Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| -theophilus- wrote: | | davelarge wrote: | | So the bottom line is that the church hierarchy would probably take some kind of action to minimise the potential for 'trouble'? |
Yes. As I explained though, the trouble would involve the leading the souls of others away from salvation. |
Oh, agreed. I was in no way suggesting that this was a desirable situation.
| -theophilus- wrote: | | I would think that if any of the reasons above were the main one for someone to attend church, they probably wouldn't be so forthright in pushing theological views in the first place. If the leadership encouraged people attending church for any of the above reasons (e.g. meeting friends/for fellowship), then it would be an example of one of the churches I don't go to. That isn't what church is for in my view, and I believe it is also the historical view. |
Again, I agree, although I guess we may differ over the fundamental reason for attending! Let's not go there for now?!
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| Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | If the leadership encouraged people attending church for any of the above reasons (e.g. meeting friends/for fellowship), then it would be an example of one of the churches I don't go to. That isn't what church is for in my view, and I believe it is also the historical view. |
Absolutely.
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