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keepingthefaith
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Holocaust Reply with quote

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=445979&in_page_id=1770&ito=newsnow
Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims. 02 April 2007


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=BB3MB1JGDQZJLQFIQMFSFFWAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saddening. Also:

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A third school found itself 'strongly challenged by some Christian parents for their treatment of the Arab-Israeli conflict-and the history of the state of Israel that did not accord with the teachings of their denomination'.


We don't know how widespread this is, but even in just a few schools it is wrong to encourage this sort of miseducation. I watched a program last night (on YouTube - originally on C4 i think) where a muslim woman, the wife of a hate-speech preacher, thought that Rupert Murdoch was Jewish! Icon_1087 The problem was, she was using this man as an example of how greedy and power hungry the Jews were Icon_1435
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't it Maxwell?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We just visited Bergen Belsen today.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jtheb wrote:
Wasn't it Maxwell?


The woman in the programme though Murdoch was Maxwell's son Icon_swoon
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I read this at forst I honestly thought it was an April fool joke - it was introduced 1.1.07 Then I have heard it again and find it incredulous that in order to pander to muslims or political correctness we have to downplay the holocauste in order to be careful to others

Complete rubbish

www.capc.org

Have you read the site for the compagne against political correctness
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having read the Telegraph's version of events (I trust it more than the Daily Mail's) it has to be said that it is only some schools that are "dropping the Holocaust". It is not the case that schools in general have chosen (or been told) to avoid the subject. Teachers in multicultural schools do need clearer guidance about how to tackle 'controversial' issues. Seeing this as an example of appeasing Muslims or being politically correct is a kneejerk reaction to the headline not the detail. History, it is said, is always written by the winner.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never in my life come across a Muslim, and I have known many, who has denied the holocaust. This is too ridiculous.

i certainly don't trust Murdoch though.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vix, they even deny that the temple mount was a jewish site or that a temple once stood there..despite all the historic evidence to the contrary.

It is necessary to really understand Islams position on the Jews, it's a mightily serious thing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The self same presidant of Iran sat with other Arab league Nations last month (I think) and said that the Holocaust was a figment of the Wests imagination also the Head Muslim helped Hitler in more ways than one.
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nnbmVtZ0QY
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure where to put this anyway
http://www.sungensisandthejews.com

http://www.wquercus.com/sungensis

'conversion of the Jews not necessary?'
Zionism
Holocaust
Talmud
etc:

Not read everything.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cant seem to get the links right?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="keepingthefaith"]The self same presidant of Iran sat with other Arab league Nations last month (I think) and said that the Holocaust was a figment of the Wests imagination also the Head Muslim helped Hitler in more ways than one.
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php

That site is so biased it proves nothing

And anything from the daily mail is not worth consideration

In short i find this thread more of the anti muslim rhetoric that is disgracing our society at the moment.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a lot of bias in both directions

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And anything from the daily mail is not worth consideration


I think that that comment could be applied to most of the media. The Daily Mail is not appreciably worse than most of the other papers.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matter of opinion of course but what I always found so frustrating about the Mail (and my mother in law took it, so I read it at her house), is that it is the only newspaper whose readers really seem to believe what they read. I think this is because a lot of their features are quite well written by articulate people and the Mail appeals to the respectable low brow because it is not as vulgar as the other tabloids. So the readers think it must be right. You don't come across that amongst readers of any other paper.

I accept that some fanatical Muslims deny the holocaust but then there are fanatical 'other people' who try and deny it too, no-one believes them. Most Muslims know perfectly well it happened. I've only known fairly moderate ones anyway but plenty of them.
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