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keepingthefaith
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 Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:46 am Post subject: Evangalising Jewish people |
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I like sometimes to tune into Hagee I like his stand on certain things and there is only the small differances that you can put up with and that go against the grain, but this was a shock to me and saddens me, because with this type of thinking people will be lost I never knew he didn't believe Jews need the Lord as much as we do 
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I'd better not comment 
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Eddie c
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| Quote: | | Sarah Posner, who reports on Hagee for the American Prospect, writes that, "[b]ased on his end-times prophecy, a supposed love of the Jewish people and the state of Israel, and false claims that Iran is just months away from a viable nuclear weapon, Hagee maintains that confrontation with Iran is necessary to fulfill God’s plan for the future of the world." |
Imagine God hands are tied unless the USA attacks Iran.
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Eddie c
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| Quote: | | A 21st Century Hitler (the president of Iran) has put in place a plan to exterminate the Jews with nuclear warfare. If we remain completely silent at this time...God's punishment will come to us also. |
I have been told that unless i support the Nation of Israel i will be judged by God. I believe that people like Hagee will be judged for advocating attacking Iran.
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keepingthefaith
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| I believe that Iran will play a big part in the end time senario i also believe it is Biblical to think that this will be the case but able men and teachers of end time Prophecy do not put the time limit on the line as Hagee does, but this is not his biggest fault (I believe) his biggest fault is believing that the Jewish people do not need the Saviour (Jesus) and they don't need to be saved. |
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Talitha Tetelestai
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I do believe we need to support Israel, but that does not mean a blind belief that everything they do is correct.
I also believe that the Jews do need to accept Jesus as their Lord and saviour.
I do believe that very soon the whole world will turn against Israel, this is slowly taking place, and that the nations will be judged on how they treated Israel.
We should be known for our love for each other, but I think our love for Israel and her people too.
We should understand the real reasons why Israel is hated so very much, the spiritual reasons behind the physical excuses given, really we are the only people who do understand this, and it should really give us an entirely different perspective. |
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keepingthefaith
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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You put everything much better than I do TT  |
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Eddie c
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TT you say...
| Quote: | | I do believe that very soon the whole world will turn against Israel, this is slowly taking place, and that the nations will be judged on how they treated Israel |
What do you mean by very soon?. I do have a good reason for asking.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Evangalising Jewish people |
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| keepingthefaith wrote: | I like sometimes to tune into Hagee I like his stand on certain things and there is only the small differances that you can put up with and that go against the grain, but this was a shock to me and saddens me, because with this type of thinking people will be lost I never knew he didn't believe Jews need the Lord as much as we do
http://www.jewsonfirst.org/06b/cufi.html |
Looks as if he is in bad company, with Hinn & Meyer & other extreme charismatics. Would Paul curse him as he did the Judaizers who troubled the Galatian Christians? Are tehy really looking forward to WWIII confident that will be raptured first?
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Talitha Tetelestai
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Eddie,
I just meant that it seemed to me that very soon the whole world would be against Israel - look at the trouble building up with Iran, if Israel acts pre emptively to defend herself against Aminejhad and co, who do you think will be blamed in the world?
How long before US and UK stop supporting her?
Even sections of the Church no longer support her.
Anti semitism is currently at an all time high.
I wasn't making a biblical pronouncement,but it seems to me that things are building to a crescendo.
How soon,I don't know, maybe I won't even live to see it myself, but I think time is short. |
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I consider it desirable to distinguish between antisemitism & opposition to the actions of state of Israel.
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keepingthefaith
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:17 am Post subject: |
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And I believe it is desirable to see the differance between Biblical and non Biblical Truths.
The Lords hand is working in the Middle East and Israel and it's people will be the focal point, and the ultimate goal in all of this is to see God Glorified, to show a people He has not forsaken them and remembered His promises to them and also to let them see that He is their Messiah the one they pierced
Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn |
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That comment is unnecessary, Anne. My statement was, in your words, "non Biblical Truth."
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keepingthefaith
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| Such has been yours throughout this forum concerning Israel and Gods promises Cove, so just as you are maybe quite hurt by certain Statements so are those who believe the opposite to you and have to read the comments you make. I don't believe you have ever made a comment in favour of Israel and it riles that people see it as a Spiritual battle for the land.....sorry but thats how I see your views which you have and continue to make quite plain. |
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2 Cor. 1:18 But as surely as God is faithful, our message to you is not "Yes" and "No." 19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by me and Silas and Timothy, was not "Yes" and "No," but in him it has always been "Yes." 20 For no matter how many promises God has made, they are "Yes" in Christ. And so through him the "Amen" is spoken by us to the glory of God. 21 Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, 22 set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
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